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pressure anymore. she shows all this hate in her

eyes everytime she walks in the room and runs out.

“oh well"-she said. it's been nice knox7ing you.

“i'm sorry i spanked you that one time-- but it looked like you liked it." I stared back with disbelief because I knew the truth asout the situation, and the band I was really into at the time totally clarified my world in terms that I understood--finally-and I knew it would make sense to her if only i could make the right tape for her. I wanted to tell her how much i loved her, and that everything would be ok eventually- that I had to exist in the right now that the second girl was talking about and this was only a Situation of the moment. things would be different later. but i got upset- my reality took over and I walked out the door. I guess i followed her even though I didn't know it because it was a couple of hours later, after she left. and when we finally caught up to eachother in the alley we just passed eachother by. oh my god. the terrible thing happened when one day i woke up and looked at her and knew that we had both fallen apart at the seams and our bones and guts were spilling all over the place. I smiled at this realization because besides the gross Sickness of it and stuff we had this cool affinity for eachother and it was as though our worlds were totally else now and we could be together forever. in this one way. and the only other girl i know now is the second onewho calls me and tells me she knows what i'm . thinking and it's good because i need to trust that someone knows whats true to me. i think she does. i think about commodity exchange and relationships that exist like commodity exchange--that is winners and losers, and profit etc.. and that i don't

@ really feel like i exist unless theres someone , else there to make sure that a relationship exists between me and them. i cant be alone anymore. i don't want to listen to myself i just wanna believe that there is more beyond my brain. “do you know what i mean". the girl who calls me. sayS this a lot and it's really comforting because

‘for once in my life i really do. I know what she means. we cant fall asleep together.

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dearest allison (xxooxx):

:the people in my class are pretty cool except for this white boy. the other day, i took a phone message and mispronounced someone's name, and he totally belittied me in front of the class. i said "grause" instead of “krause." in any case, he said that "grouse" helongs outside and it is "krause!" i just didn't care for the way he corrected me and the tone of his voice. tian, he totally caught me off-guard cause i haven't had anyone do that to me since my hi-school days. soi was speechless for a few seconds. i thought the professor or classmates would say something, but no one did. so i thought to myself, well fuck him-- i'm going to tell him cxactly what i think. i suppose you can look at this as part of my claiming my adulthood. i yelled out,

"hey dude- (gave him the finger) fuck off and diet" i

think 1 shocked the hell out of everyone but they said nothing. they were probably surprised by my confrontation for asians usually avoid confrontation. that dumb boy totally gave me weird looks for the next 24 hours. but

man, the following day, he was totally sucking up to

me for being a jerk the other day. and the rest is history. Overall, the people and i talk a lot about our oppressions

and i've been trying to educate them on our cultural differences.

itm also taking survey of american lit., and the professor is so rad. the dynamics of our class is pretty fuckin rad, and we're so productive #ecause of the students' interaction with one another. i've been learning how to articulate my language, concepts, feminist- marxist perspectives in such a way that they evoke their deepest thoughts and feelings...but of course, in a very Froductive way. i tried not to come off too threatening ‘til later on into the term. i thinkri left an impression, for i believe they're finally understanding the plight of women and people of color. this is reflected in both their expressions and papers. i've made a lot of new girlfriends in this class. i try to surround myself with really cool girls and it smells so good and feels so safe. i totally love them all and will fight for them.

we have this cool African-American boy who has been very active in the class discussions. for awhile, he stopped talking when i started_to express myself. i felt so bad, so whenever he would say anything, i would comment on what “an excellent point that was." { just wanted to give him lots of support, for i believe our white institutions don't always do that. guess what?-- it worked!! now, he's so active and we've been totally supporting each other. i supposed some people may think i‘m biased or prejudiced but itm not. i just feel that we need to support people who have been marginalized, and that i'm trying to bring those voices into the center.

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‘I just got finished reading Girl Germs and now I'm sitting her thinking about where I stand in my country. I figure we might as well burn © the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the only Bill I'll ever love) because most all of us are being denied our rights. We have white males in office telling us what to and not to say, it's . — good to hate each other, how and what to do with our bodies, and on and on. This makes me want to kick a wall in. I can't vote (in November I'll turn 15), so I can't kick Georgie Porgie out of office. A woman comedian once said, "With a name like Bush you'd think he would be for more women's issues." As a teenager I'm not allowed to say much, as a woman I can't say any more, and as a person. in general I might as well shut-up. I live ina small, southern town called Farmerville. I wish I could move. Difference and op2n-mindedness are not exactly promoted here. ,

Women should be practally worshipped. I mean men can't make babies all by themselves, so if it veren't for:‘us they'd all die out. Not that we're baby making machines, but it is something to think about. I can tell you some about discrimination ty mom worked in a job and was experienced and earned about $11 an hour. Along came an in- experienced white guy who makes $14 dollars an hour, three dollars more for nothing.

In Mississippi all known gays are forced to live in a different part of a certain community... ity grandmother says that it is “in the best interests of the people." Tike, I guess sho donasn't consider gays to be people? I better stop writing ‘cause I'm getting pissed off and I need to go to bed.

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Dear Molly and Allison:

Thanks for “Girl Germs." Ih closely yet, so no in-depth C4 interview and Erin's article .° and both seemed fun. i

I am not mad at either of you 4. you were going to print my leg But I read it and it's not to}49 I can live with that. .

I am in a crummy mood. First of all, one of my friends accused me of being a gay separatist. Then I went to a discussion on new directions in feminism at a bookstore last night and there were 30 women and maybe three men and one woman started talking about self-defense and saying men do this men do that and I bristled and I spoke up and said well I don't feel safe walking down the street and I feel I need to learn self-defense because I'm a skinny wimpy faggot and an acquaintance of mine was stabbed in Chicago because he's a fag and a good friend of mine and

his boyfriend were assaulted in my hometown for being fags and

I tried to draw a parallel between men who sexually assault women and men who bash fags and this woman sitting next to me turned to me and screamed "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RAPE" which is true I don't live under the constant threat of sexual assault but that's not what I said and I saw red and clammed

up and remembered that's why I've avoided politics for two years people get emotional and don't listen and walking home I thought feminists had better get over their castration fantasies and deal with the big enemy which is patriarchy and it's in men's best interest too to dismantle patriarchy and you honestly don't expect ma to just sit there and let some stranger insinuate

that because I have a penis I am therefore a rapist. I'm still upset.

The Chicago zine thing was awesome, despite what happened to Steve, and I was so glad to finally get to'see Fifth Column perform. Donna played guitar and Laura played drums for awhile and Caroline and G.B. Jones (she asked me about "Girl Germs"

and said it's a great name for a zine) are old pals of mine and besides, Fifth Column are amazing, don't you think? “All-Time Queen of the World" is a prime example of what I'm talking about when I talk about women creating their own musical vocabulary. When they play they mix the vocals way up so you can hear every word.

Recently read a book by Gertrude Stein. Can you tell?

I talked to Erin about getting some lesbians into "Sassy" so “ell see. Your suggestion about an article on youth involvement with Queer Nation is great, but what I want to see is a

first-person confession called "I am a Teenage Lesbian." I want to see that headline on the front cover.

Enjoy your summer in the city. .

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Dear Girl Germs...

Listen to this! Today I was going to class after lunch and a teacher, Mr. Evans, stopped me and my friend and asked us who left the mess on the table. (Some one had left lunch trays and milk cartons on the table.) We said it wasn't ours, it was someone from lunch A and we were going to leave, but he told us that we had to take it up. It was 11:42 and the tardy bell rings at 11:45, so we said we'll be tardy, and he did the same thing last week and we were tardy and got. bitched out by our teacher. Anyway I told him I didn't make the mess so why should I clean it up and get marked tardy? It wasn't my responsibility. My friend was getting worked up and told him to let us go! we'll be tardy! She uses her hands alot so he starts acting like this total dick and mimmmicks her actions,. "We'll be tardy, we'll be tardy!" he says. Then he says "I'll write you a pass if you tell me who did it." Der. Like we know who made the fucking mess! We said we didn't know. By this time the bell had already rung, so I grabbed her hand and started to walk away, when he put his arm around her and said "Bye sweetheart!" Oh! the way he said it totally pissed me off, so I turned around and said Don't you ever call us Sweetheart again, chauvanist pig! He said "What, sweetheart?"! PIG! We went to our English teacher and told her what went on and we are going to get him to give us a formal apology for being a pig. God, I wanted to beat the shit out of him.

I should have.

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but only firm ones

not just any cow -or bum steer

make me fetch a beer

drive down the street and call me a queer because its our turn

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tryin' to live our lives without carrying guns lets stage a turn-a-round with next to naked boys how does that sound? be makin all the noise -and throwin things

-ain't talking dollar bills

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yes the boys are doing the gogo now you may think its a no no

but most of us are just saying wow!

Tts time they got feminin

it what they're so afraid of

always freakin out about who I choose to love Strip down, oilup, and hit the floor boyfriend they created it

they supported it

so now I think its time they started using the shit Boys be coy

its time to employ

your boyish charm

I'll lead you round by the arm

you can talk -but only when spoken to

a pretty walk -is something you'll have to do

to get respect ; ‘ bet you won't think its funny

tryin to find a date who's got lots of money

thats 1£ you're good enough and if your real pretty don't act too tourh and give em' lots of titty

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But most of us are just sayin wow!

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tonight the times are about to change

cuz the boys are dancing and we're out of range how does it feel to be a piece of meat?

keep dancing, I'm watching you move to the beat don't care if you're doin it for me or for money we're all just watching your ass move, honey smile, blow, lick your lips

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SELENE: My name is Selene and I'm gonna say goodbye to my dud

tonight, and I play vocal chords.

VALERIE: I'm drinkin. I'm Valerie, I play the drums.

ELIZABETH/LIZ: I'm going to Public Enemy to get the shit kicked

out of me. Oh I play bags.

STEFANIE: I'm gonna get drunk. I'm Stefanie and I play guituor.

ME: uh-I don't have any particular questions ready. But I guess what's really exciting right now for me is what you guy: are doing-- with this single and all-- and if you could talk about that, the process, what it is and stuff. I guess it's your lst?

SYB: yeah.

ME: Oh wait-- I have a better question. Tell me about how you started and stuff like that.

ST: We all used to play together ina really dumb band called Barbie's Dream Car...

S: No, it's not true-- some of us didn't play in Barble's Dreamear.

V: And it wasn't a dumb band!

S: Valerie was in Barbie's Dream Car and then Stefanie started

ME:

BITC

jamming with her, and I sang a couple songs with them and did a couple shows.

And then Cheryl left to Germany-- she played bass-- and sv we had Liz sit in.

I was just gonna be a temporary bass player.

Then Cheryl left so that band fell apart. But we decided that we all liked playing together, so we kept playing. We hai to,, think of a name really quick ‘cause we had a show. Actually, ' Ben London thought of the name. ¥

Well, how we started playing together was I knew Val and Setene from the Market (and I barely knew them) but they knew I played. And they were playing and I'd come down there and it'd be like,

“Yeah, I*m learning how to play bass!" “Wow I'm learning to Play drums!" And so when their bass player left, she asked me.- and it was cool. ‘Cause I was jammin in this speed metal band

in the North end--"Demon Box.“ But nothing ever happened {rom that, but I learned a lot real fast ‘cause it was so fast! And that was with chicks.

That was all girls? Is it still a band?

Yeah, they're all Playing,

We (7 Tear Bitch) all started learning our instruments while we were forming a band. Even still, song writing and stuff is a complete mystery to us. The whole thing still feels new.

Well ok. ‘When all else fails,

yell and everything's coveredty all forget in the middle of a everyone would look at Lisa, She has great stage presence.

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Lorna, No Fuckin War, and You Smel! Lonely. Selene writes al} the lyrics, except on No Fuckin, Steve from the Gits wrote them with Sclene during the war. It changes back and forth between “no fuckin war”

and "we're fuckin poor.”

Depending on our financial state! or after the war was over. which it really isn't.

It's more about like, not just us four being poor: it's our shole society having so many poor people right here and then we qe ‘itt to war and spend millions of dollars on that, but there's thins we need to deal with right here-- and that's the lyrical switen-

off. I mean, sometimes I am really poor!

But to me, that song's more than just a protest about the war, hut a protest about how it was protested. You know that one line

"I saw no fuckin riot, I want a‘fuckin riot"-- kind of a dis-

satisfaction with the whole situation from all ends.

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plead and prog for peace , and hope it all goes away" is so L 1.

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I just,wanna say that if you're a chick and you wanna play. you should just fuckin doit and not wait around for a bunch of rove models to show up. I just read this thing in MRR where this girl wrote in and asked why there's no role models. I think you sheuld make yourself a role model and just do it.

I think it's harder to wait for role models/tokens/ctc. T mean, like Babes in Toyland-- I'm never gonna be able to sound like that! fuck. 7

Plus there's sorta like this invented mystique that it's really something hard and tricky to be in a band--like “oh wow!"-- but it’s really easy if you wanna do it.

So, I stole your set list at that show. I love the names of your songs!

You were the one who did that! Some girl just ripped it off the stage!--"“spit, war, smell, dead men ...”

Val said “I wanna write a song Dead Men Non't Rape” from graffitti on the street.

we wrote all these hilarious lyrics, most of which we decided vere too harsh for the song; so we changed it a bit.

Oh, those wome:'s Castration Fantasies!

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ME: Tell me‘ahbout You Smell Lonely.

S: 1t's about men who make comments to you walking down the street

The saying. came from Jennifer and Russel, our friends.

Vv: Like a geek in a bar slobbering all over you-- they smell lonely.

S: The part that goes “What goes on in the mind of a man like you?" Like, what the fuck are you thinkin to be saying shit like this? It's insane, some of the stuff guys say to you.

Me: Hey what's Lorna about??

S: Lorna is a bunch of different women that I know+- but I decided to name it after just this one woman. The lyrics are in the 7".

ST: I still think it's about me.

Me: 1 thought it was really great. Lorna's such a cool name, a qirl's name. To hear girls singing about other girls is new to me, ‘cause usually what I hear jis girls (myself included) singing about boys and fucked up situations (which is totally valid...)

St: 1t never seemed bad, not derogatory in any sense-- just like here's me and this is what I do (from another girl's standpoint.) That's why I like that song.

Me: It seemed really supportive of your girlfriends.

S:> ‘That's what it was, because I have a lot more closer girlfriends than I ever had in my life. That song came from having a lot ofr really strong feelings about my friends-- where they're at and what they're going through. And a lot of us do go out and get really fucked up and go through this shit, and that's the way it is. It's not at all derogatory.

LORNA

She had the cool and distant gaze

of a girl who wasn’t raised

so much as self made

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She made love She didn’t get laid

And the charm was always going When the beer was free & Nowing Reminiscent of the wild tines

Yeah she was hot bot girl hot night

Lying fucked up on the floor she was fucked up on the floor

She put her head into the pain

She put her head into the pane

And then she pulled back

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S: I've been singing a year and a half,

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vz I think that since Liz has been playing with Atomic 61 her song writing ability has improved immensely, and that's really helped us out a lot. She writes the majority of the material now. Stefanie writes good stuff too, but Liz has been on overdrive with two bands and all-- thinking about music all the time. It's not like she's dictating the sound-- 'cause we all write the music together, like

a communal effort.

Me: It sounds like it. I'm actually amazed at how much you all share. Often songy- writing turns into this really privatized thing and there's so much fear in sharing it.

St: Yeah, for us it's a completely collaborative thing.

Me: How do you situate yourselves in msic-- like, as girls/women in music or in an all-female band? What's important to you about being in a “girl band" and how do you even feel about that categorization?

V: I think it's a valid question that comes up a lot. I think, basically, we play

‘ together 'cause we're friends-- like guys always playing together. It's who your peers are, who you can relate to. I just can't imagine playing with anyone else. These are the people I identify with and who I wanna hang out with. It's noé that it has to be all women, although that does play into it, but at the same time it's sorta natural-- like, of course this is who I wanna play with.

St: I don't want it to be like "Yeah there's this really great girl band 7 Year Bitch..." but more like "Yeah there's this really great band called 7 Year Bitch by the way, they're girls." I don't want people to say "They're really quod, for women" kinda thing. I don't want our sex to make a difference.

Vv: But it does, it does! I think there definitely is an issue there. There's a novelty in being an "all-girl band". It would be ridiculous of us to try to deny it. I mean, I don't care and can't control what people are gonna think about it.

S: I agree with them. I feel like it's a question of who I feel canfortable playing with. A lot of times people have come up after we've Played and say, “I totally came here with this preconceived idea that you guys were gonna suck, but I wanted to check you out ‘cause I heard all this stuff. But god, you're pretty good...” And it's irritating ‘cause they think they're saying this to flatter you, but it's like "gee, thanks." It's irritating. I mean, maybe it's good, maybe we're helping open their minds. Like, "Oh wow, you're women and you can play!" Buti; it's like, No shit! A

St: Like we can't play ‘cause we have tits!

Vv: Just think about how many all-boy bands we sat through!

St: Yeah, there's so many bad boy bands out there; it's funny that they say shit about us or about women in general. It's true a lot of people cane up to us aml go "I expected just this mediocre and I was real impressed." It depends on how they say it which will irritate me the most or not. Some people are really condescending.

Me: Like "I'm granting you this Coolness..." It kinda reminds me of the Clarence Thomas senate “trial"-- everyone speaks of Anita Hill like "Wow, she spoke so well...(almost like a white man)"

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| slept with this really stup!d guy last night.

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Dear Molly & Allison,

I really loved Girl Germs#3, especially Karen Catchpole's article on masturbation, except that I want to disagree with tone thing. Karen says that if you masturbate, you're still a virgin - but thems no such thing as virginity! It's just an abstract idea, and it's a harmful one, too.

A "virgin" is supposedly a person who hasn't had sex. Theware probaly hundreds of sex acts ("acts" sounds strange to me, but I can't think of another term) that you can do

“ alone or with a partner, but only one (intercourse) counts as “real" sex. There's no logical reason for us to call this the only real sex, and it doesn’t even cause any physical changes the first time you do it. As Karen said, we usually don't have hymens any way. The only reason some women bleed when they first have intercourse is that they haven't trained their vaginas (with -dildoes, candlesticks, veggies, etc. in gr@uated sizes) to relax enough to open for something the size of a penis. I'm sure some women can relax enough without practice. No one ever talks about this - the attitude seemsto be that those shameless hussies should suffer for “losing” their “virginity”! By the way, a female gynecologist told me that sometimes women have surgery to have a hymen removed (I don't know if the surgeon really does that or just cuts into the vagina), and the surgery ends up making intercourse hurt worse than it did before!

Obviously, the fact that intercourse is considered to be the only “real" sex act causes people to do it a lot more often than they do the other acts. I don't want to knock intercourse completely, since I love it, myself, but it’s really the worst act for everyone to choose to do 2very Lime they have sex. It's the only act (besides vagina to penis

rubbing) that causes unwanted pregnancy, and all well-known forms of birth control are hazardous to a woman's health.

It's also one of the riskiest acts in terms of spreading diseases like AIDS, especially for women. Sex just doesn't have to be as risky as the fundies want it tobe! Those of

us who do want to do the riskier acts should be informed about ' how to protect ourselves.

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If you were a “virgin" you has a higher market value because your husband could be sure you weren't pregnant with another man's child.

This is why female "virgins" are conidered "pure" and “unspoiled" and one reason why sex is considered “dirty”. This stereotype is especially cruel to rape victims. Other stereotypes of “virgins” (that they're ignorant about or afraid of sex, or that they're immature) and of non- "virgins" (that they're sluts, or, for men, that they're men) cause a lot of distress - and false divisions among- young people (the old virgin/whore thing). So that's why I think we need to LOSE the concept of virginity!.

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